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	<title>Comments on: I really don&#8217;t get socialist views of advertising.</title>
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		<title>By: Left Outside</title>
		<link>http://mrcivillibertarian.co.uk/644/i-really-dont-get-socialist-views-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Outside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there!

I personally don&#039;t have a huge problem with advertising but socialists in general and I suppose Marxists in particular make a distinction between productive and unproductive labour. While liberals are quite happy if something is worth paying for it is creating value, otherwise it wouldn&#039;t be bought.

However advertisement aimed at children are really aimed to make children pester parents to do something the child wants but that the parent wasn&#039;t doing (and therefore probably didn&#039;t want to do). 

Parents do make bad decisions when it comes to their kids, and many will freely admit to this as well. 

I&#039;m not saying anything should be done about it but I think companies should be aware that this isn&#039;t a way to make your company look very good.

I also thought it was interesting to see a company actually trying to create a new market for their product. You often read about capitalism seeking out and creating new markets, and here it was, in monkey form.

With respect to the CO2 advert, although I agree with the premise that &quot;something must be done&quot; about climate change I don&#039;t particularly like the advert. Lets leave the kids out of it. I don&#039;t think we need to convince people to make small changes to their life rah rah rah, we need to price carbon and let the economy find a new equilibrium. 

PS Oh and it wasn&#039;t Pinot Noir I ended up drinking that night but Absinthe and lemonade, so those adverts 
&lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; aren&#039;t working.

PPS I see sconzey you&#039;re from Southampton University, I graduated from there in 2008 how is Jesters these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there!</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t have a huge problem with advertising but socialists in general and I suppose Marxists in particular make a distinction between productive and unproductive labour. While liberals are quite happy if something is worth paying for it is creating value, otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t be bought.</p>
<p>However advertisement aimed at children are really aimed to make children pester parents to do something the child wants but that the parent wasn&#8217;t doing (and therefore probably didn&#8217;t want to do). </p>
<p>Parents do make bad decisions when it comes to their kids, and many will freely admit to this as well. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying anything should be done about it but I think companies should be aware that this isn&#8217;t a way to make your company look very good.</p>
<p>I also thought it was interesting to see a company actually trying to create a new market for their product. You often read about capitalism seeking out and creating new markets, and here it was, in monkey form.</p>
<p>With respect to the CO2 advert, although I agree with the premise that &#8220;something must be done&#8221; about climate change I don&#8217;t particularly like the advert. Lets leave the kids out of it. I don&#8217;t think we need to convince people to make small changes to their life rah rah rah, we need to price carbon and let the economy find a new equilibrium. </p>
<p>PS Oh and it wasn&#8217;t Pinot Noir I ended up drinking that night but Absinthe and lemonade, so those adverts<br />
<em>really</em> aren&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>PPS I see sconzey you&#8217;re from Southampton University, I graduated from there in 2008 how is Jesters these days?</p>
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		<title>By: sconzey</title>
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		<dc:creator>sconzey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and I didn&#039;t used to have sugary cereal after school -- unlike my girlfriend -- but Marmite on toast. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and I didn&#8217;t used to have sugary cereal after school &#8212; unlike my girlfriend &#8212; but Marmite on toast. <img src='http://mrcivillibertarian.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sconzey</title>
		<link>http://mrcivillibertarian.co.uk/644/i-really-dont-get-socialist-views-of-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>sconzey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a product of the classic socialist assumption that people are irrational sheeple, incapable of both a) divining their own self-interest and b) judging which actions will help and which will hinder.

but dw guise; the scholar-kings of this Progressive Paradise have determined that these things will make you happy, and we will give them to you, because we&#039;re nice like that.

Also: &lt;a href=&quot;http://freesoc.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/open-contracts-a-market-anarchist-theory-of-advertising/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a market anarchist&lt;/a&gt; theory of advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a product of the classic socialist assumption that people are irrational sheeple, incapable of both a) divining their own self-interest and b) judging which actions will help and which will hinder.</p>
<p>but dw guise; the scholar-kings of this Progressive Paradise have determined that these things will make you happy, and we will give them to you, because we&#8217;re nice like that.</p>
<p>Also: <a href="http://freesoc.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/open-contracts-a-market-anarchist-theory-of-advertising/" rel="nofollow">a market anarchist</a> theory of advertising.</p>
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